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Paying less fees using BTC
First of all, if you live on US or China this is probably not for you!
I am not affiliated to any bitcoin broker (or any financial company, actually) nor agent. I will explicitly show the names of those services to provide a real example so you could follow my exact steps. The goal of this post is to show you how you could reduce fee/taxes that you pay by recharging your agent balance using bitcoin (in the case this is new information for you). So, if saving money is something you like, keep reading. I’ll now compare two distinct recharge methods including the math behind each US dollar conversion rate, agent/payment processor fees and operational taxes. Let’s go:
USD Ptax 1.00 = BRL 5.254 USD 1.00 = CNY 6.501 (Cssbuy’s rate) BTC 1.00 = USD 10,974.90 (high volatility) USD Ptax is the dollar rate charged by Brazilian international credit cards. It’s slightly higher than mid-market.
First of all, you have to buy bitcoins. I’ve used a broker called BrasilBitcoin. The general requirements for a good broker are no deposit (on your local currency) or transfer fees. Here I’m talking about platform fees. All bitcoin transactions have a fee that’s paid to some agent in the blockchain network. Note that this fee is a fixed amount no matter the transfer amount. So, of course, high amounts are preferable. I’ve made a deposit on this broker of BRL 1,000. BRL 1,000 = BTC 0.01742291 At that time, the network fee was BTC 0.00017697. So, the value available for transfer was BTC 0.01724594. BTC 0.01724594 = USD 189.27 Cssbuy has a fee of 1% for bitcoin recharge operations. So, this USD 189.27, minus operational fee, becomes USD 187.37. USD 187.37 = CNY 1,218.15
This is, of course, the most straightforward and recommended payment method. I’ve been using it for some time and it’s just easy and works fine, but, unfortunately, it’s also really expensive. PayPal fee (using Cssbuy) is 3% of total value + USD 0.30. For instance, if you intend to recharge USD 10 the actual amount you’ll pay is 10.3 + 0.3 = 10.6. Banks, usually, charge an additional spread fee on the USD value. My bank sets a 4% fee. International payments in Brazil also have a tax called IOF and it’s 6.28% of the total amount in BRL. In order to have a final credit card charge of BRL 1,000, removing bank fees and taxes, the actual transactional amount was 1,000 * (1 - 0.0638) * 0.96 = 898.75. BRL 898.75 = USD 171.06 Removing PayPal charges, I ended up with (171.06 - 0.3) / 1.03 = 165.78. USD 165.78 = CNY 1,077.73
(PayPal) BRL 1,000 = CNY 1,077.73 (BTC) BRL 1,000 = CNY 1,218.15 As you can see, using bitcoin I had a 12% increase on the final balance on my agent. Also remember that bitcoin transactional fees are a fixed amount. So, the higher the recharge amount, the lower is the percentual fee, whereas the credit card fees/taxes are proportional to this recharge amount. I know that fees/taxes I pay for credit card usage in Brazil are different from other countries' but do the math and check whether this strategy is good for you. If you are interested in trying this kind of payment, I would recommend starting with the lowest recharge amount possible (USD 10) in order to do an end-to-end test. In the case everything goes right you do with your originally intended amount.
Building the infrastructure for the Bitcoin Standard in Canada before the collapse of fiat currencies is the critical mission objective that drives innovation at Bull Bitcoin. We are very excited to announce an important milestone in fulfilling this duty: the public release of Liquid CAD, our newest product designed to accelerate and facilitate the adoption of Bitcoin. Liquid CAD is a non-custodial prepaid payment system denominated in Canadian dollars. Units of Liquid CAD (L-CAD) consist of vouchers issued on the Liquid Network as confidential bearer assets that can be transacted peer-to-peer using a Liquid wallet. Users acquire Liquid CAD by withdrawing their account balance out of Bull Bitcoin, by purchasing Liquid CAD with Bitcoin on Bull Bitcoin, by using the Liquid CAD withdrawal method on other Bitcoin liquidity providers such as Aquanow or by accepting L-CAD as method of payment.
L-CAD assets can only be redeemed for Bitcoin. They cannot be redeemed for a fiat currency payment.
Liquid CAD is a unique project rethinking the concept of fiat-pegged assets, avoiding the banking business model of “fiatcoin” (aka stablecoins) in favor of a prepaid payments model entirely centred around Bitcoin on-ramp and off-ramp. Liquid CAD is not a currency, nor is it a security: it is a prepaid card. Importantly, the business model of Liquid CAD is not to collect interest on funds in our custody, unlike fiatcoins, but rather to drive the sales of Bitcoin from which we derive our revenue and we benefit from Liquid CAD assets being cashed out and thus removed from our balance sheet. Bull Bitcoin does not get any revenue from interest. Every time an L-CAD token is purchased by a user, the amount of dollars deposited on Bull Bitcoin is guaranteed to one day be used by someone to purchase Bitcoin. It’s a one-way street: once a unit of fiat is tokenized as L-CAD, it’s never going back to its off-chain fiat form and will ultimately result in a buy order on a Bitcoin trading platform. The Liquid CAD logo is a drop of blood because our objective is to accelerate “fiat bleed”, a phenomenon best described by Pierre Rochard in his magnificent essay Speculative Attack:
“Bitcoin will not be eagerly adopted by the mainstream, it will be forced upon them. Forced, as in “compelled by economic reality”. People will be forced to pay with bitcoins, not because of ‘the technology’, but because no one will accept their worthless fiat for payments. Contrary to popular belief, good money drives out bad. This “driving out” has started as a small fiat bleed. It will rapidly escalate into Class IV hemorrhaging due to speculative attacks on weak fiat currencies. The end result will be hyperbitcoinization, i.e. “your money is no good here. Bitcoins are not just good money, they are the best money. The Bitcoin network has the best monetary policy and the best brand. We should therefore expect that bitcoins will drive out bad, weak currencies. My own prediction is that slow bleed has been accelerating and is only the first step. The second step will be speculative attacks that use bitcoins as a platform. The third and final step will be hyperbitcoinization.”
Different representations of Canadian dollars compete to be used as payment methods (cash, bank balances, PayPal balances, closed-loop prepaid cards, open-loop prepaid cards, etc.) and that the winner will be the one that has the best Bitcoin saleability, i.e. which can be most easily sold for Bitcoin at a moment’s notice. We’re very proud to provide this alternative payment method to Canadians in a time where the banking system is falling deeper into crisis, especially as the Canadian dollar is demonstrating itself to be one of the most pointless and weakest currencies that nobody really wants to hold. Finally, we’re very happy to be partnering with Aquanow, our recommended institutional liquidity provider for high-volume BTC-CAD trading. They will accept Liquid CAD deposits and withdrawals as being interchangeable with Canadian dollars. We hope that Liquid CAD will become the standard representation of Canadian dollar value among Canadian Bitcoin users.
Liquid Bitcoin (L-BTC) integration
In addition to Liquid CAD, Bull Bitcoin is also announcing that Liquid Bitcoin (L-BTC) payments are now supported interchangeably with Bitcoin transactions for all Bull Bitcoin services. This means that our users can buy, sell and spend L-BTC instead of BTC. Canadian Bitcoin traders can purchase L-BTC from BullBitcoin.com and fund their international trading accounts with L-BTC using ultra fast and cheap confidential transactions. They can also cash-out their Bitcoin balance as L-BTC from these platforms and sell those L-BTC for fiat on Bylls.com, avoiding risky and expensive international wire transfers to unknown and untrusted foreign banks. The transactional benefits of L-BTC are very potent:
Transaction amounts are hidden, in compliance with Canada’s strict privacy protection laws
Observers cannot tell whether the transaction is L-BTC or any other asset
Confirmation times are 1 minute
Transaction fees are very low (< 0.05$)
Disclaimer: Liquid Bitcoin (L-BTC) is not the same as Bitcoin (BTC). L-BTC Liquid Network assets are IOUs for Bitcoin held in a multisignature contract by the Liquid Network federation. The custody of the underlying Bitcoin is managed by a decentralized network of 15 members which process transactions and withdrawals from the multisignature contract according to the Liquid Federation protocol rules.
Liquid CAD detailed overview
Peer-to-peer prepaid payments by Bull Bitcoin
Liquid CAD is a non-custodial prepaid payment system denominated in Canadian dollars. Units of Liquid CAD (L-CAD) consist of vouchers issued on the Liquid Network as confidential bearer assets that can be transacted peer-to-peer using a Liquid wallet. Users acquire Liquid CAD by withdrawing their account balance out of the Bull Bitcoin, by purchasing Liquid CAD with Bitcoin on Bull Bitcoin, by using the Liquid CAD withdrawal method on other Bitcoin liquidity providers such as Aquanow or by accepting L-CAD as method of payment.
A new payment method in Canada
Liquid CAD can be used by anyone to send and receive payments denominated in Canadian dollars. Because of the permissionless nature of the Liquid Network, Bull Bitcoin cannot prevent Liquid CAD from being traded on secondary markets. Merchants, individuals and institutions must accept that only Bull Bitcoin can guarantee redemption of the L-CAD and that this redemption will be exclusively paid out in Bitcoin. Accepting Liquid CAD as payment is, in effect, the same as accepting gift cards as payment. However, Bitcoin being the most liquid commodity on the market, it can be transformed into any other currency easily for example using services such a Bylls which allow Canadians to pay all their utility bills, send bank transfers to third parties or sell Bitcoin to their bank account.
Making Canadian dollars bleed into Bitcoin
The purpose of Liquid CAD is to facilitate the transfer fiat in the context of the purchase and sale of Bitcoin and providing innovative new services that help Bitcoin users hedge the value of Canadian dollars against Bitcoin in the context of their commercial transactions. Our goal is to create a payment method that is specifically targeting Bitcoin users that wish to liquidate Canadian dollar payments for Bitcoin. Our mission is to accelerate the phenomenon known as “fiat bleed” whereby Canadians will gradually abandon inferior money (such as the Canadian dollar) for the superior Bitcoin alternative. Every Liquid CAD issued will ultimately be exchanged into Bitcoin. We are excited for the day Liquid CAD will be made obsolete by the inevitable hyperbitcoinization of the Canadian economy.
Like all other closed-loop prepaid instruments, Liquid CAD has counterparty risk. The owners are trusting that they will eventually be able to use Liquid CAD as a payment method on the Bull Bitcoin platform to fund their account and purchase Bitcoin. When a Bull Bitcoin user withdraws his Bull Bitcoin account balance as an L-CAD token, the Canadian dollars he used to fund this balance remains in our possession in the same manner as regular Bull Bitcoin vouchers. These funds are used to execute Bitcoin purchases when L-CAD owners decide to redeem their L-CAD for Bitcoin. In essence, each L-CAD is “backed” by the Canadian dollar deposit of the user that withdraws it from the platform in the first place.
Benefits of using and accepting Liquid CAD for payments
Irreversible, non-custodial and no bank required
Liquid CAD payments cannot be charged back, cancelled, delayed or frozen. There is no intermediary between the sender and the recipient. It is a bearer asset: whoever owns the keys owns the coins. It is a perfect way to accept payments or transact securely without depending on banks and payment processors. Canadians can use Liquid CAD to purchase Bitcoin and then use Bylls.com to pay billers, personal payees or simply sell Bitcoin to their bank account.
Fast transaction and cheap fees
Liquid Network transactions are sent and received instantly and require 1 minute for settlement. Transaction fees paid using Liquid Bitcoin can be as low as 300 satoshis per transaction (a few cents). In order to benefit from these cheap fees, make sure to download the latest version of the Elements software and ensure that the minimum transaction fee is set at 100 satoshis per kilobye. It only takes a few minutes to set up a free Liquid Network wallet, such a Green Wallet by blockstream.
Unlike Bitcoin, transactions between the sender and the recipient are encrypted. It is impossible for third parties observing Liquid CAD transactions on a block explorer to determine the amount of the transaction. In addition, it’s also impossible to even know you are using Liquid CAD, since the data identifying the asset itself is also encrypted!
What are the use-cases of Liquid CAD?
Buying and selling Bitcoin
The primary use-case of Liquid CAD is to make it easier to buy and sell Bitcoin on the Bull Bitcoin platform. By withdrawing their balance from Bull Bitcoin, users are reducing some (but not all) of the custody risk associated with keeping fiat currency on an exchange. For example, use Liquid CAD to create your own non-custodial dollar-cost-averaging schedule!
Onboarding new Bitcoin users
New users can be overwhelmed by the experience of dealing with banks to buy Bitcoin (and the heavier KYC process of account funding). You may be tempted to buy Bitcoin for them, but that will impose a lot of burdens on you. It’s much easier to set them up with a Green wallet, send them Liquid CAD and show them how to use Bull Bitcoin! They decide when is the right time for them to invest, with a lower KYC burden.
Hedging Bitcoin price
You may believe the price of Bitcoin will go down in the short term, but you still want to hold Bitcoin in the long term. Normally you have two options: short the Bitcoin price (very risky!) or sell your Bitcoin and receive Canadian dollars in your bank account (inconvenient!). By selling your Bitcoin for Liquid CAD, you can lock in the value of Bitcoin right now and buy them back later without needing to use your bank account or taking risks with leverage.
As a merchant, you want to receive the settlement of payments in Bitcoin. But this imposes a burden on your customers, which have to deal with the Bitcoin price volatility when they are paying you. Ask your clients to pay you with Liquid CAD, and you can get the settlement with Bitcoin on your own terms.
Payroll and suppliers
What if your staff or suppliers want to get paid in Bitcoin? It can be very difficult, because this means you are effectively buying Bitcoin on their behalf. Instead, you can pay them in Liquid CAD and let them deal with the process of choosing the exchange rate and using their own wallet. Let them deal with the tax burden, exchange rates and Bitcoin wallet security.
List of Bull Bitcoin Liquid Network features
Withdraw account balance as L-CAD
This is conceptually the same as “buying” Liquid CAD with your account balance. We call it “Withdrawing L-CAD” because on the Bull Bitcoin platform, we consider L-CAD and CAD to be interchangeable and fungible.
Fund account balance with L-CAD
To redeem Liquid CAD for Bitcoin, users need to first fund their account by selecting the “Deposit L-CAD” payment method. Bull Bitcoin users must always fund their account first before buying Bitcoin, and then purchase Bitcoin with their account balances. Reminder: account balances cannot be withdraw as fiat payments, but can later be withdrawn again as L-CAD.
Sell Bitcoin for L-CAD
You can sell Bitcoin and receive Liquid CAD payments instead of a bill payment, personal payee payment or bank payment. As soon as the Bitcoin transaction is confirmed, the Liquid CAD transaction is sent to the address you provided.
Liquid Bitcoin (L-BTC) and Bitcoin interchangeability
For every service which involves a Bitcoin payment, the user can substitute traditional Bitcoin payments for Liquid Bitcoin payments. This includes:
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Quant Network: Token valuation dynamics and fundamentals
This post intends to illustrate the dynamics and fundamentals related to the mechanics and use of the Quant Network Utility Token (QNT), in order to provide the community with greater clarity around what holding the token actually means. This is a follow-up on two articles David W previously wrote about Quant Network’s prospects and potential, which you can find here:
For holders not intending to use Overledger for business reasons, the primary goal of holding the QNT token is to benefit from price appreciation. Some are happy to believe that speculation will take the QNT price to much higher levels if and when large-scale adoption/implementation news comes out, whilst others may actually prefer to assess the token’s utility and analyse how it would react to various scenarios to justify a price increase based on fundamentals. The latter is precisely what I aim to look into in this article. On that note, I have noticed that many wish to see institutional investors getting involved in the crypto space for their purchase power, but the one thing they would bring and that is most needed in my opinion is fundamental analysis and valuation expectations based on facts. Indeed, equity investors can probably access 20 or 30 reports that are 15 pages long and updated on a quarterly basis about any blue chip stock they are invested in, but how many of such (professional) analyst reports can you consult for your favorite crypto coins? Let me have a guess: none. This is unfortunate, and it is a further reason to look into the situation in more details. To be clear, this article is not about providing figures on the expected valuation of the token, but rather about providing the community with a deeper analysis to better understand its meaning and valuation context. This includes going through the (vast) differences between a Utility Token and a Company Share since I understand it is still blurry in some people’s mind. I will incorporate my thoughts and perspective on these matters, which should not be regarded as a single source of truth but rather as an attempt to “dig deeper”. In order to share these thoughts with you in the most pertinent manner, I have actually entirely modelled the Quant Treasury function and analysed how the QNT token would react to various scenarios based on a number of different factors. That does not mean there is any universal truth to be told, but it did help in clarifying how things work (with my understanding of the current ruleset at least, which may also evolve over time). This is an important safety net: if the intensity of speculation in crypto markets was to go lower from here, what would happen to the token price? How would Quant Treasury help support it? If the market can feel comfortable with such situation and the underlying demand for the token, then it can feel comfortable to take it higher based on future growth expectations — and that’s how it should be. Finally, to help shed light on different areas, I must confess that I will have to go through some technicalities on how this all works and what a Utility Token actually is. That is the price to pay to gain that further, necessary knowledge and be in a position to assess the situation more thoroughly — but I will make it as readable as I possibly can, so… if are you ready, let’s start!
A Utility Token vs. a Company Share: what is the difference?
It is probably fair to say that many people involved in the crypto space are unfamiliar with certain key financial terms or concepts, simply because finance is not necessarily everyone’s background (and that is absolutely fine!). In addition, Digital Assets bring some very novel concepts, which means that everyone has to adapt in any case. Therefore, I suggest we start with a comparison of the characteristics underpinning the QNT Utility Token and a Quant Network Company Share (as you may know, the Company Shares are currently privately held by the Quant Network founders). I believe it is important to look at this comparison for two reasons:
Most people are familiar with regular Company Shares because they have been traded for decades, and it is often asked how Utility Tokens compare.
Quant Network have announced a plan to raise capital to grow their business further (in the September 2019 Forbes article which you can find here). Therefore, regardless of whether the Share Offering is made public or private, I presume the community will want to better understand how things compare and the different dynamics behind each instrument.
So where does the QNT Utility Token sit in Quant Network company and how does it compare to a Quant Network Company Share? This is how it looks: https://preview.redd.it/zgidz8ed74y31.png?width=1698&format=png&auto=webp&s=54acd2def0713b67ac7c41dae6c9ab225e5639fa What is on the right hand side of a balance sheet is the money a company has, and what is on the left hand side is how it uses it. Broadly speaking, the money the company has may come from the owners (Equity) or from the creditors (Debt). If I were to apply these concepts to an individual (you!), “Equity” is your net worth, “Debt” is your mortgage and other debt, and “Assets” is your house, car, savings, investments, crypto, etc. As you can see, a Company Share and a Utility Token are found in different parts of the balance sheet — and that, in itself, is a major difference! They indeed serve two very different purposes:
Company Shares: they represent a share of a company’s ownership, meaning that you actually own [X]% of the company ([X]% = Number of shares you possess / Total number of shares) and hence [X]% of the company’s assets on the left hand side of the balance sheet.
Utility Tokens: they are keys to access a given platform (in our case, Quant Network’s Operating System: Overledger) and they can serve multiple purposes as defined by their Utility Document (in QNT’s case, the latest V0.3 version can be found here).
As a consequence, as a Company Shareholder, you are entitled to receive part or all of the profits generated by the company (as the case may arise) and you can also take part in the management decisions (indeed, with 0.00000001% of Apple shares, you have the corresponding right to vote to kick the CEO out if you want to!). On the other hand, as a Utility Token holder, you have no such rights related to the company’s profits or management, BUT any usage of the platform has to go through the token you hold — and that has novel, interesting facets.
A Utility Token vs. a Company Share: what happens in practice?
Before we dig further, let’s now remind ourselves of the economic utilities of the QNT token (i.e. in addition to signing and encrypting transactions):
Licences: a licence is mandatory for anyone who wishes to develop on the Overledger platform. Enterprises and Developers pay Quant Network in fiat money and Quant Treasury subsequently sets aside QNT tokens for the same amount (a diagram on how market purchases are performed can be found on the Overledger Treasury page here). The tokens are locked for 12 months, and the current understanding is that the amount of tokens locked is readjusted at each renewal date to the prevailing market price of QNT at the time (this information is not part of the Utility Token document as of now, but it was given in a previous Telegram AMA so I will assume it is correct pending further developments).
Usage: this relates to the amount of Overledger read and write activity performed by clients on an ongoing basis, and also to the transfer of Digital Assets from one chain to another, and it follows a similar principle: fiat money is received by Quant Network, and subsequently converted in QNT tokens (these tokens are not locked, however).
Gateways: information about Gateways has been released through the Overledger Network initiative (see dedicated website here), and we now know that the annual cost for running a Gateway will be 500 QNT whilst Gateway holders will receive a percentage of transaction fees going through their setup.
Minimum holding amounts: the team has stated that there will be a minimum QNT holding amount put in place for every participant of the Overledger ecosystem, although the details have not been released yet.
On the right hand side, you see the simplified Profit & Loss account (“P&L”) which incorporates Total Revenues, from which costs and taxes are deducted, to give a Net Income for the company. A share of this Net Income may be distributed to Shareholders in the form of a Dividend, whilst the remainder is accounted as retained profits and goes back to the balance sheet as Equity to fund further growth for instance. Importantly, the Dividend (if any) is usually a portion of the Net Income so, using an indicative 40% Dividend yield policy, shareholders receive here for a given year 80 out of total company revenues of 1,000.
On the left hand side, you see the QNT requirements arising from the Overledger-related business activity which equal 700 here. Note that this is only a portion of the Total Revenues (1,000) you can see on the right hand side, as the team generates income from other sources as well (e.g. consultancy fees) — but I assume Overledger will represent the bulk of it since it is Quant Network’s flagship product and focus. In this case, the equivalent fiat amount of QNT tokens represents 700 (i.e. 100% of Overledger-related revenues) out of the company’s Total Revenues of 1,000. It is to be noted that excess reserves of QNT may be sold and generate additional revenues for the company, which would be outside of the Overledger Revenues mentioned above (i.e. they would fall in the “Other Revenues” category).
A way to summarise the situation from a very high level is: as a Company Shareholder you take a view on the company’s total profits whereas as a Utility Token holder you take a view on the company’s revenues (albeit Overledger-related). It is however too early to reach any conclusion, so we now need to dig one level deeper again.
More considerations around Company Shares
As we discussed, with a Company Share, you possess a fraction of the company’s ownership and hence you have access to profits (and losses!). So how do typical Net Income results look in the technology industry? What sort of Dividend is usually paid? What sort of market valuations are subsequently achieved? Let’s find out: https://preview.redd.it/eua9sqlt74y31.png?width=2904&format=png&auto=webp&s=3500669942abf62a0ea1c983ab3cea40552c40d1 As you can see, the typical Net Income Ratio varies between around 10% and 20% in the technology/software industry (using the above illustrated peer group). The ratio illustrates the proportion of Net Income extracted from Revenues. In addition, money is returned to Company Shareholders in the form of a Dividend (i.e. a portion of the Net Income) and in the form of Share repurchases (whereby the company uses its excess cash position to buy back shares from Shareholders and hence diminish the number of Shares available). A company may however prefer to not redistribute any of the profits, and retain them instead to fund further business growth — Alphabet (Google) is a good example in this respect. Interestingly, as you can see on the far right of the table, the market capitalisations of these companies reflect high multiples of their Net Income as investors expect the companies to prosper in the future and generate larger profits. If you wished to explore these ideas further, I recommend also looking into the Return on Equity ratio which takes into account the amount of resources (i.e. Capital/Equity) put to work to generate the companies’ profits. It is also to be noted that the number of Company Shares outstanding may vary over time. Indeed, aside from Share repurchases that diminish the number of Shares available to the market, additional Shares may be issued to raise additional funds from the market hence diluting the ownership of existing Shareholders. Finally, (regular) Company Shares are structured in the same wayacross companies and industries, which brings a key benefit of having them easily comparable/benchmarkable against one another for investors. That is not the case for Utility Tokens, but they come with the benefit of having a lot more flexible use cases.
More considerations around the QNT token
As discussed, the Utility Token model is quite novel and each token has unique functions designed for the system it is associated with. That does not make value assessment easy, since all Utility Tokens are different, and this is a further reason to have a detailed look into the QNT case. https://preview.redd.it/b0xe0ogw74y31.png?width=1512&format=png&auto=webp&s=cece522cd7919125e199b012af41850df6d9e9fd As a start, all assets that are used in a speculative way embed two components into their price: A) one that represents what the asset is worth today, and B) one that represents what it may be worth in the future. Depending on whether the future looks bright or not, a price premium or a price discount may be attached to the asset price. This is similar to what we just saw with Company Shares valuation multiples, and it is valid across markets. For instance, Microsoft generates around USD 21bn in annual Net Income these days, but the cost of acquiring it entirely is USD 1,094bn (!). This speculative effect is particularly visible in the crypto sector since valuation levels are usually high whilst usage/adoption levels are usually low for now. So what about QNT? As mentioned, the QNT Utility model has novel, interesting facets. Since QNT is required to access and use the Overledger system, it is important to appreciate that Quant Network company has three means of action regarding the QNT token:
MANAGING their QNT reserves on an ongoing basis (i.e. buying or selling tokens is not always automatic, they can allocate tokens from their own reserves depending on their liquidity position at any given time),
BUYING/RECEIVING QNT from the market/clients on the back of business activity, and
SELLING QNT when they deem their reserves sufficient and/or wish to sell tokens to cover for operational costs.
Broadly speaking, the above actions will vary depending on business performance, the QNT token price and the Quant Network company’s liquidity position. We also have to appreciate how the QNT distribution will always look like, it can be broken down as follows: https://preview.redd.it/f20h7hvz74y31.png?width=1106&format=png&auto=webp&s=f2f5b63272f5ed6e3f977ce08d7bae043851edd1 A) QNT tokens held by the QNT Community B) QNT tokens held by Quant Network that are locked (i.e. those related to Licences) C) QNT tokens held by Quant Network that are unlocked (i.e. those related to other usage, such as consumption fees and Gateways) D) the minimum QNT amount held by all users of the platform (more information on this front soon) So now that the situation is set, how would we assess Quant Network’s business activity effect on the QNT token? STEP 1: We would need to define the range of minimum/maximum amounts of QNT which Quant Network would want to keep as liquid reserves (i.e. unlocked) on an ongoing basis. This affects key variables such as the proportion of market purchases vs. the use of their own reserves, and the amount of QNT sold back to the market. Also, interestingly, if Quant Network never wanted to keep less than, for instance, 1 million QNT tokens as liquid reserves, these 1 million tokens would have a similar effect on the market as the locked tokens because they would never be sold. STEP 2: We would need to define the amount of revenues that are related to QNT. As we know, Overledger Licences, Usage and Gateways generate revenues converted into QNT (or in QNT directly). So the correlation is strong between revenues and QNT needs. Interestingly, the cost of a licence is probably relatively low today in order to facilitate adoption and testing, but it will surely increase over time. The same goes for usage fees, especially as we move from testing/pilot phases to mass implementation. The number of clients will also increase. The Community version of Overledger is also set to officially launch next year. More information on revenue potential can be found later in this article. STEP 3: We would need to define an evolution of the QNT token price over time and see how things develop with regards to Quant Network’s net purchase/sale of tokens every month (i.e. tokens required - tokens sold = net purchased/sold tokens). Once assumptions are made, what do we observe? In an undistorted environment, there is a positive correlation between Quant Network’s QNT-related revenues and the market capitalisation they occupy (i.e. the Quant Network share of the token distribution multiplied by the QNT price). However, this correlation can get heavily twisted as the speculative market prices a premium to the QNT price (i.e. anticipating higher revenues). As we will see, a persistent discount is not really possible as Quant Treasury would mechanically have to step in with large market purchases, which would provide strong support to the QNT price. In addition, volatility is to be added to the equation since QNT volatility is likely to be (much) higher than that of revenues which can create important year-on-year disparities. For instance, Quant Treasury may lock a lot of tokens at a low price one year, and be well in excess of required tokens the next year if the QNT token price has significantly increased (and vice versa). This is not an issue per se, but this would impact the amount of tokens bought/sold on an ongoing basis by Quant Treasury as reserves inflate/deflate. If we put aside the distortions created by speculation on the QNT price, and the subsequent impact on the excess/deficiency of Quant Network token reserves (whose level is also pro-actively managed by the company, as previously discussed), the economic system works as follows: High QNT price vs. Revenue levels: The value of reserves is inflated, fewer tokens need to be bought for the level of revenues generated, Quant Treasury provides low support to the QNT price, its share of the token distribution diminishes. Low QNT price vs. Revenue levels: Reserves run out, a higher number of tokens needs to be bought for the level of revenues generated, Quant Treasury provides higher support to the QNT price, its share of the token distribution increases. Summary table: https://preview.redd.it/q7wgzpv384y31.png?width=2312&format=png&auto=webp&s=d8c0480cb34caf2e59615ec21ea220d81d79b153 The key here is that, whatever speculation on future revenue levels does to the token in the first place, if the QNT price was falling and reaching a level that does not reflect the prevailing revenue levels of Overledger at a given time, then Quant Treasury would require a larger amount of tokens to cover the business needs which would mean the depletion of their reserves, larger purchases from the market and strong support for the QNT price from here. This is the safety net we want to see, coming from usage! Indeed, in other words, if the QNT price went very high very quickly, Quant Treasury may not be seen buying much tokens since their reserves would be inflated BUT that fall back mechanics purely based on usage would be there to safeguard QNT holders from the QNT price falling below a certain level. I would assume this makes sense for most, and you might now wonder why have I highlighted the bottom part about the token distribution in red? That is because there is an ongoing battle between the QNT community and Quant Treasury — and this is very interesting. The ecosystem will show how big a share is the community willing to let Quant Network represent. The community actually sets the price for the purchases, and the token distribution fluctuates depending on the metrics we discussed. An equilibrium will be formed based on the confidence the market has in Quant Network’s future revenue generation. Moreover, the QNT community could perceive the token as a Store of Value and be happy to hold 80/90% of all tokens for instance, or it could perceive QNT as more dynamic or risky and be happy to only represent 60/70% of the distribution. Needless to say that, considering my previous articles on the potential of Overledger, I think we will tend more towards the former scenario. Indeed, if you wished to store wealth with a technology-agnostic, future proof, globally adopted, revenue-providing (through Gateways) Network of Networks on which most of the digitalised value is flowing through — wouldn’t you see QNT as an appealing value proposition? In a nutshell, it all comes down to the Overledger revenue levels and the QNT holders’ resistence to buy pressure from Quant Treasury. Therefore, if you are confident in the Overledger revenue generation and wish to see the QNT token price go up, more than ever, do not sell your tokens! What about the locked tokens? There will always be a certain amount of tokens that are entirely taken out of circulation, but Quant Network company will always keep additional unlocked tokens on top of that (those they receive and manage as buffer) and that means that locked tokens will always be a subset of what Quant Network possesses. I do not know whether fees will primarily be concentrated on the licencing side vs. the usage side, but if that were to be the case then it would be even better as a higher amount of tokens would be taken out of circulation for good. Finally, as long as the company operates, the revenues will always represent a certain amount of money whereas this is not the case for profits which may not appear before years (e.g. during the first years, during an economic/business downturn, etc.). As an illustration, a company like Uber has seen vast increases in revenues since it launched but never made any profit! Therefore, the demand for the QNT token benefits from good resilience from that perspective. Quant Network vs. QNT community — What proportion of the QNT distribution will each represent?
How much revenues can Overledger generate?
I suggest we start with the basis of what the Quant Network business is about: connecting networks together, building new-generation hyper-decentralised apps on top (called “mApps”), and creating network effects. Network effects are best defined by Metcalfe’s law which states: “the effect of a telecommunications network is proportional to the square of the number of connected users of the system” (Source: Wikipedia). This is illustrated by the picture below, which demonstrates the increasing number of possible connections for each new user added to the network. This was also recently discussed in a YouTube podcast by QNT community members “Luke” and “Ghost of St. Miklos” which you can watch here. Source: applicoinc.com This means that, as Overledger continues to connect more and more DLTs of all types between themselves and also with legacy systems, the number of users (humans or machines) connected to this Network of Networks will grow substantially — and the number of possible connections between participants will in turn grow exponentially. This will increase the value of the network, and hence the level of fees associated with getting access to it. This forms the basis of expected, future revenue generation and especially in a context where Overledger remains unique as of today and embraced by many of the largest institutions in the world (see the detailed summary on the matter from community member “Seq” here). On top of this network, multi-chain hyper-decentralised applications (‘mApps’) can be built — which are an upgrade to existing dApps that use only one chain at a time and hence only benefit from the user base and functionalities of the given chain. Overledger mApps can leverage on theusers and abilities of all connected chains at the same time, horizontal scaling, the ability to write/move code in any language across chains as required, write smart contracts on blockchains that do not support them (e.g. Bitcoin), and provide easier connection to other systems. dApps have barely had any success so far, as discussed in my first article, but mApps could provide the market with the necessary tools to build applications that can complement or rival what can be found on the Apple or Google Play store. Also, the flexibility of Overledger enables Quant Network to target a large number of industries and to connect them all together. A sample of use cases can be found in the following illustration: https://preview.redd.it/th8edz5b84y31.png?width=2664&format=png&auto=webp&s=105dd4546f8f9ab2c66d1a5a8e9f669cef0e0614 It is to be noted that one of the use cases, namely the tokenisation of the entire world’s assets, represents a market worth hundreds of trillions of USD and that is not even including the huge amount of illiquid assets not currently traded on traditional Capital Markets which could benefit from the tokenisation process. More information on the topic can be found in my previous article fully focused on the potential of Overledger to capture value from the structural shift in the world’s assets and machine-related data/value transfers. Finally, we can look at what well established companies with a similar technology profile have been able to achieve. Overledger is an Operating System for DLTs and legacy systems on top of which applications can be built. The comparison to Microsoft Windows and the suite of Microsoft Software running on top (e.g. Microsoft Office) is an obvious one from that perspective to gauge the longer term potential. As you can see below, Microsoft’s flagship softwares such as Windows and Office each generate tens of billions of USD of revenues every year: Source: Geekwire We can also look at Oracle, the second largest Enterprise software company in the world: Source: Statista We can finally look at what the Apple store and the Google Play store generate, since the Quant Network “mApp store” for the community side of Overledger will look to replicate a similar business model with hyper-decentralised applications: Source: Worldwide total revenue by app store, 2018 ($bn) The above means total revenues of around USD 70bn in 2018 for the Apple store and Google Play store combined, and the market is getting bigger year-on-year! Also, again, these (indicative!) reference points for Overledger come in the context of the Community version of the system only, since the Enterprise version represents a separate set of verticals more comparable to the likes of Microsoft and Oracle which we just looked at.
I hope this article helped shed further light on the QNT token and how the various market and business parameters will influence its behavior over time, as the Quant Network business is expected to grow exponentially in the coming years. In the recent Forbes interview, Quant Network’s CEO (Gilbert Verdian) stated : “Our potential to grow is uncapped as we change and transform industries by creating a secure layer between them at speed. Our vision is to build a mass version of what I call an internet of trust, where value can be securely transferred between global partners not relying on defunct internet security but rather that of blockchain.”. This is highly encouraging with regards to business prospects and also in comparison to what other companies have been able to achieve since the Web as we know it today emerged (e.g. Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc.). The Internet is now entering a new phase, with DLT technology at its core, and Overledger is set to be at the forefront of this new paradigm which will surely offer a vast array of new opportunities across sectors. I believe it is an exciting time for all of us to be part of the journey, as long as any financial commitment is made with a good sense of responsibility and understanding of what success comes down to. “Crypto” is still immature in many respects, and the emergence of a dedicated regulatory framework combined with the expected gradual, selective entrance of institutional money managers will hopefully help shed further light and protect retail token holders from the misunderstandings, misinformation and misconduct which too many have suffered from in the last years. Thanks for your time and interest. Appendix: First article:“The reasons why Quant Network (QNT) will rise to the Top of the crypto sphere in the coming months” Second article:“The potential of Quant Network’s technology to capture value from the structural shift in the World’s assets and machine-related data/value transfers” October 2019 City AM interview of Gilbert Verdian (CEO):Click here October 2019 Blockchain Brad interview of Gilbert Verdian (CEO):Click here July 2019 Blockchain Brad interview of Gilbert Verdian (CEO):Click here February 2019 Blockchain Brad interview of Gilbert Verdian (CEO):Click here ---- About theoriginal authorof the article: My name is David and I spent years in the Investment Banking industry in London. I hold QNT tokens and the above views are based on my own thoughts and research only. I am not affiliated with the Quant Network team in any way. This is not investment advice, please do your own research andunderstandwhat you are buying before doing so. It is also my belief that more than 90% of all other crypto projects will fail because what matters is what is gettingadopted; please do not put more money at risk than you can afford to lose.
With 244 million active accounts in 2018, PayPal is one of the most popular payment processing tools out there. PayPal has lots of limitations that slow down the process of running the business and high fees. Here's a list of PayPal Alternatives for Startups
PayPal is a well-known solution for companies looking to accept payments worldwide, manage their finances, and send invoices. With 244 million active accounts in 2018, PayPal is one of the most popular payment processing tools out there. More and more companies are looking for PayPal alternatives these days since this company has lots of limitations that slow down the process of running the business. When it comes to choosing the proper payment solution, you need to pay attention to the fees, data security, and customer service. For those of you who are looking for Paypal replacements or want to know other flexible solutions, in this list, we have put together 32 great Paypal alternatives that work for startups. Source
Payoneer is the first option that crosses my mind when it comes to Paypal alternatives. Payoneer allows you to send money using a debit card, credit card, and ACH payments. It is fast, – the payments can be completed in just 2 hours. Pricing: Processing fee starts at 3%
Skrill has a clean, user-friendly interface. It offers you a prepaid debit card. The fees may be the same as Paypal, but it makes international payments easier since the payments can be sent to the debit card at once. After that, you can use your debit card to withdraw money using an ATM. Pricing: Receiving money into your Skrill account is free. Send payment for only 1.45% fee. Withdraw funds with 7.50 % fee.
Transferwise is a much faster and cheaper solution for international transfers. You can send and receive money on their service without borders. It merely works: clients pay in their currency, and you get the payment right on your bank account within a few hours in the currency of your country. You need to share your phone number and last four digits of your credit card to receive money. Pricing: You need to pay a difference in exchange rates and small Transferwise fee.
Selz is a tool that will help you to create your online store or sell goods on social media. It is not a payment system, but an online store builder with ‘drag and drop’ feature and more. Besides that, you can integrate your payment gateway with Selz without other external services. They offer automatic Tax Invoices for your customers. Pricing: 2% transaction fee; 2.9% + 30¢ processing fee¹
Using Google Pay, your clients can make purchases using your website and app. You can enable shopping across devices to reduce missed conversions and forgotten passwords. This is one of the best options for store owners. It takes a second to get or receive a payment. Pricing: Google Pay has no fees for using debit cards or making bank transfers, though you have to pay a 2.9% fee for credit cards.
2checkout is another perfect Paypal alternative tool. It’s all about accepting payments globally. The commission in the USA is almost the same as Paypal, but when it comes to receiving payment from other countries, they offer better rates. It allows you to sell any product abroad. Pricing: 2SUBSCRIBE pricing plan requires 4.5% + $0.45 per successful sale. 2SELL requires 3.5% + $0.35 per successful sale.
Stripe is a global startup company with a 19% market share. Companies of any type and size use the service to accept payments and manage their business needs. Developers love this service for Stripe’s API that allows quickly add a payment method to a website. Pricing: 2.9% + 30¢ per successful card charge
Wepay features not only excellent customer support but also a virtual terminal that allows you to make purchases online without leaving the website. The company was established in 2008. Pricing: 2.9 percent + $0.30 per credit card payment; 1 percent + $0.30 per bank transfer.
Quickbooks or Intuit is a popular useful tool for small business owners who need help with their finances. It gives you an ability to accept payments both in-person and online. Besides, it can help you to pay taxes, manage salaries, and file payroll tax forms. Pricing: 2.4 percent + $0.25 per swiped, tapped or dipped transaction; 3.4 percent + $0.25 per keyed transaction
ProPay was built in 1997. It provides similar features as PayPal, along with the ability to send and receive payments worldwide. For those who are doing transactions in person, you can use ProPay JAK. It is a mobile phone credit card reader that process cards in real time. Pricing: Pricing depends on the type of transaction and card you have.
For those of you who sell products and services with Shopify, you need to get a closer look at their in-built service called Shopify Payments. It gives you low processing fees, allows you to accept payments using different cards (Visa, Discover, Mastercard, and American Express), and have all your data at one place. Pricing: Online credit card rates 2.9% + 30¢. In-person credit card rates 2.7% + 0¢.
Amazon Pay if the first tool for letting people checkout at your online store. It features an account with user login where all information is stored. It makes the process faster and smoother than with regular shopping cart. Pricing: The fees start with 2.9 percent+ 30¢ per transaction
Dwolla is another tool similar to Paypal. Just like Paypal, it allows you to send and receive payments from individuals and companies. Their main specialization is ACH bank transfers, so that bank transfers are super secure. But the main disadvantage is that you can’t create an account with Dwolla outside of the US. Pricing: The transaction fee is only $0.25.
This tool will come in handy for e-commerce store owners because it offers web and mobile payments. You can store credit cards with Braintree just like Google Pay. Paypal runs this company, but it still provides more advanced list of features and better customer support. Pricing: 2.9% + $.30 per transaction.
This tool will help you to manage payrolls. With Square, your employees can clock in and out of work and set up direct deposits. Besides, Square grants small business loans that you can pay back with a percentage of daily sales. Pricing: 2.9 percent fee + $0.30 per transaction
With Payza you can accept payments using a credit card and bank account. Moreover, the tool also works with cryptocurrency. Pricing: 1.99 percent + $0.25 per transaction
Venmo is famous for its feature to send cash to friends. When you create an account on Venmo, it offers you to make a list of friends. After that, it is way easier to send money to people from this list. The business can use it for the checkout process. Pricing: It’s free to send or receive money from a linked bank account. Electronic withdrawal (standard or Instant) from $0 or 1%* (min. $0.25). $2.50 for out-of-network ATM withdraw.
Payline offers you straightforward, transparent, and flexible payment processing experience. It is a useful service for store owners – you can use it whether you’re in-store, mobile, or online. Pricing: Swiping in person: 0.2% ($0.10 per transaction | $10 per month)
Click2sell is a reliable Paypal alternative that offers almost all the same features. It accepts Paypal, Skrill, and credit card payments. The main difference is that they have potent reports and affiliate tracking. Pricing: Depending on your plan, $1.50 + 7 percent per direct sale or $1 per transaction up to $19.99
Klarna is a service that offers its customers ‘pay later’ feature. It means you can purchase goods online and pay with Klarna. Then, you have from 14 up to 30 days after delivery to pay them back interest-free. Pricing: Free for up to one month
Merchant claim to be a hassle-free payment processing company that gives you more control over your funds than Paypal. They allow a grace period that can help you to resolve disputes rather than freeze your account, just like Paypal usually does. Pricing: Processing fees start at 1.99 percent + $0.25 per transaction
Another perfect payment solution for global companies. Wirecard works with over 100 transaction currencies and 200 payment networks that gives you almost complete freedom. With this tool, you can do in-store payments, mobile payments, value-added services, and much more. Pricing: The pricing is available upon request
BlueSnap allows you to add payment methods to your websites, stores, and apps. Your customers can make purchases with credit cards, bank accounts, or similar online payment systems. Pricing: 3.90% + $0.30 or you can develop a personal pricing plan.
Whether you use terminal, online, or point-of-sale with Worldpay, it does not matter. They provide EMV chip card payments and also alternative payment options in the situations when your customer has no card. Pricing: Pricing is available upon request
FastSpring is an e-commerce platform for software and Saas companies. With this service, you can easily enable payments online or in an app. You can make popup checkout for clients, personalized shopping experience and more. Pricing: Pricing is available upon request
Viewpost is a full-featured payment and billing solution that will be suitable for both single freelancer and huge enterprise company. You can view payment history in your account and keep track of all transactions. Pricing: $14.99/month plus transaction fees
Authorize has over 43,000 merchants and handles more than one billion transactions per year. This is a big company that accepts credit card and electronic payments in person, or over the phone. Pricing: No setup fee, free monthly gateway, 2.9% + 0.30 cents per transaction
Send, receive or request money online with Popmoney. The process is transparent and straightforward: cash moves from one bank account to another without any middle accounts. Pricing: Flat $0.95 per transaction to use it here at Popmoney.com
Without setup or cancellation fees, Charge is a good credit card processing platform. It enables you to accept payments online and in stores. Pricing: Merchant Account Application Fee and Web Shopping Cart are free.
If you have SaaS or e-commerce businesses, you need to take a closer look at Paylane. This tool allows you to accept payments in various currencies and formats. Smashing Magazine and The Next Web use it. Pricing: 2.8% + 0.25 EUR and 0 for Paypal
Coinbase is a cryptocurrency trading platform that allows the business to get Bitcoin transfers. If your client is familiar with cryptocurrency, they can easily send your payment to your Bitcoin wallet. Then, you can merely convert this amount into your local currency, or transfer to another payment service. But remember about exchange rates. Pricing: Pricing varies depending on the cryptocurrency
All iPhone users can get the advantage of using Apple Pay to transfer money. Previously, I used it only to pay products in stores without a card. When a person sends you cash, it stores automatically in your Apple Wallet. You can spend it using Apply Pay or transfer on your bank account within 1-3 business days. Pricing: It charges the banks as a rebate for every transaction. No fee for merchants.
Imagine if there was one desk that all stories could cross so that, at 4am, a media plan could be decided upon and disseminated where all news outlets coordinated to set the goalposts of debate and hyper focused on specific issues to drive a narrative to control how you vote and how you spend money; where Internet shills were given marching orders in tandem to what was shown on television, printed in newspapers and spread throughout articles on the World Wide Web. https://i.imgur.com/Elnci0M.png In the past, we had Operation Mockingbird, where the program was supremely confident that it could control stories around the world, even in instructions to cover up any story about a possible “Yeti” sighting, should it turn out they were real. https://i.imgur.com/121LXqy.png If, in 1959, the government was confident in its ability to control a story about a Yeti, then what is their level of confidence in controlling stories, today? https://i.imgur.com/jQFVYew.png https://i.imgur.com/ZKMYGJj.png In fact, we have a recent example of a situation similar to the Yeti. When Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch met on the TARMAC to spike the Hillary email investigation, the FBI was so confident it wasn’t them, that their entire focus was finding the leaker, starting with searching within the local PD. We have documentation that demonstrates the state of mind of the confidence the upper levels of the FBI have when dealing with the media. https://i.imgur.com/IbjDOkI.png https://i.imgur.com/NH86ozU.png The marriage between mainstream media and government is a literal one and this arrangement is perfectly legal. https://i.imgur.com/OAd4vpf.png But, this problem extends far beyond politics; the private sector, the scientific community, even advice forums are shilled heavily. People are paid to cause anxiety, recommend people break up and otherwise sow depression and nervousness. This is due to a correlating force that employs “systems psychodynamics”, focusing on “tension centered” strategies to create “organizational paradoxes” by targeting people’s basic assumptions about the world around them to create division and provide distraction. https://i.imgur.com/6OEWYFN.png https://i.imgur.com/iG4sdD4.png https://i.imgur.com/e89Rx6B.png https://i.imgur.com/uotm9Cg.png https://i.imgur.com/74wt9tD.png In this day and age, it is even easier to manage these concepts and push a controlled narrative from a central figure than it has ever been. Allen & Co is a “boutique investment firm” that managed the merger between Disney and Fox and operates as an overseeing force for nearly all media and Internet shill armies, while having it’s fingers in sports, social media, video games, health insurance, etc. https://i.imgur.com/zlpBh3c.png https://i.imgur.com/e5ZvFFJ.png Former director of the CIA and Paul Brennan’s former superior George Tenet, holds the reigns of Allen & Co. The cast of characters involves a lot of the usual suspects. https://i.imgur.com/3OlrX7G.png
In 1973, Allen & Company bought a stake in Columbia Pictures. When the business was sold in 1982 to Coca-Cola, it netted a significant profit. Since then, Herbert Allen, Jr. has had a place on Coca-Cola's board of directors. Since its founding in 1982, the Allen & Company Sun Valley Conference has regularly drawn high-profile attendees such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Rupert Murdoch, Barry Diller, Michael Eisner, Oprah Winfrey, Robert Johnson, Andy Grove, Richard Parsons, and Donald Keough. Allen & Co. was one of ten underwriters for the Google initial public offering in 2004. In 2007, Allen was sole advisor to Activision in its $18 billion merger with Vivendi Games. In 2011, the New York Mets hired Allen & Co. to sell a minority stake of the team. That deal later fell apart. In November 2013, Allen & Co. was one of seven underwriters on the initial public offering of Twitter. Allen & Co. was the adviser of Facebook in its $19 billion acquisition of WhatsApp in February 2014. In 2015, Allen & Co. was the advisor to Time Warner in its $80 billion 2015 merger with Charter Communications, AOL in its acquisition by Verizon, Centene Corporation in its $6.8 billion acquisition of Health Net, and eBay in its separation from PayPal. In 2016, Allen & Co was the lead advisor to Time Warner in its $108 billion acquisition by AT&T, LinkedIn for its merger talks with Microsoft, Walmart in its $3.3 billion purchase of Jet.com, and Verizon in its $4.8 billion acquisition of Yahoo!. In 2017, Allen & Co. was the advisor to Chewy.com in PetSmart’s $3.35 billion purchase of the online retailer.
Previous conference guests have included Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren and Susan Buffett, Tony Blair, Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Allen alumnus and former Philippine Senator Mar Roxas, Google Chairman Eric Schmidt, Quicken Loans Founder & Chairman Dan Gilbert, Yahoo! co-founder Jerry Yang, financier George Soros, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Media Mogul Rupert Murdoch, eBay CEO Meg Whitman, BET founder Robert Johnson, Time Warner Chairman Richard Parsons, Nike founder and chairman Phil Knight, Dell founder and CEO Michael Dell, NBA player LeBron James, Professor and Entrepreneur Sebastian Thrun, Governor Chris Christie, entertainer Dan Chandler, Katharine Graham of The Washington Post, Diane Sawyer, InterActiveCorp Chairman Barry Diller, Linkedin co-founder Reid Hoffman, entrepreneur Wences Casares, EXOR and FCA Chairman John Elkann, Sandro Salsano from Salsano Group, and Washington Post CEO Donald E. Graham, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, and Oprah Winfrey.
https://i.imgur.com/VZ0OtFa.png George Tenet, with the reigns of Allen & Co in his hands, is able to single-handedly steer the entire Mockingbird apparatus from cable television to video games to Internet shills from a singular location determining the spectrum of allowable debate. Not only are they able to target people’s conscious psychology, they can target people’s endocrine systems with food and pornography; where people are unaware, on a conscious level, of how their moods and behavior are being manipulated. https://i.imgur.com/mA3MzTB.png
"The problem with George Tenet is that he doesn't seem to care to get his facts straight. He is not meticulous. He is willing to make up stories that suit his purposes and to suppress information that does not." "Sadly but fittingly, 'At the Center of the Storm' is likely to remind us that sometimes what lies at the center of a storm is a deafening silence."
https://i.imgur.com/YHMJnnP.png Tenet joined President-elect Bill Clinton's national security transition team in November 1992. Clinton appointed Tenet Senior Director for Intelligence Programs at the National Security Council, where he served from 1993 to 1995. Tenet was appointed Deputy Director of Central Intelligence in July 1995. Tenet held the position as the DCI from July 1997 to July 2004. Citing "personal reasons," Tenet submitted his resignation to President Bush on June 3, 2004. Tenet said his resignation "was a personal decision and had only one basis—in fact, the well-being of my wonderful family—nothing more and nothing less. In February 2008, he became a managing director at investment bank Allen & Company. https://i.imgur.com/JnGHqOS.png We have the documentation that demonstrates what these people could possibly be doing with all of these tools of manipulation at their fingertips. The term for it is “covert political action” for which all media put before your eyes is used to serve as a veneer… a reality TV show facade of a darker modus operandum. https://i.imgur.com/vZC4D29.png https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol36no3/html/v36i3a05p_0001.htm
It is now clear that we are facing an implacable enemy whose avowed objective is world domination by whatever means and at whatever costs. There are no rules in such a game. Hitherto acceptable norms of human conduct do not apply. If the US is to survive, longstanding American concepts of "fair play" must be reconsidered. We must develop effective espionage and counterespionage services and must learn to subvert, sabotage and destroy our enemies by more clever, more sophisticated means than those used against us. It may become necessary that the American people be made acquainted with, understand and support this fundamentally repugnant philosophy.
Intelligence historian Jeffrey T. Richelson says the S.A. has covered a variety of missions. The group, which recently was reorganized, has had about 200 officers, divided among several groups: the Special Operations Group; the Foreign Training Group, which trains foreign police and intelligence officers; the Propaganda and Political Action Group, which handles disinformation; the Computer Operations Group, which handles information warfare; and the Proprietary Management Staff, which manages whatever companies the CIA sets up as covers for the S.A.
…Those operations we inaugurated in the years 1955-7 are still secret, but, for present purposes, I can say all that’s worth saying about them in a few sentences – after, that is, I offer these few words of wisdom. The ‘perfect’ political action operation is, by definition, uneventful. Nothing ‘happens’ in it. It is a continuing arrangement, neither a process nor a series of actions proceeding at a starting point and ending with a conclusion.
CIA FBI NSA Personnel Active in Scientology: https://i.imgur.com/acu2Eti.png When you consider the number of forces that can be contained within a single “political action group” in the form on a “boutique investment firm,” where all sides of political arguments are predetermined by a selected group of actors who have been planted, compromised or leveraged in some way in order to control the way they spin their message. https://i.imgur.com/tU4MD4S.png The evidence of this coordinated effort is overwhelming and the “consensus” that you see on TV, in sports, in Hollywood, in the news and on the Internet is fabricated.
Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most likely develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'
When you find yourself feeling like common sense and common courtesy aren’t as common as they ought to be, it is because there is a massive psychological operation controlled from the top down to ensure that as many people as possible are caught in a “tension based” mental loop that is inflicted on them by people acting with purpose to achieve goals that are not in the interest of the general population, but a method of operating in secret and corrupt manner without consequences. Notice that Jeffrey Katzenberg, of Disney, who is intertwined with Allen & Co funds the Young Turks. He is the perfect example of the relationship between media and politics.
Katzenberg has also been involved in politics. With his active support of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, he was called "one of Hollywood's premier political kingmakers and one of the Democratic Party's top national fundraisers."
Last week, former DreamWorks Animation CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg’s new mobile entertainment company WndrCo was part of a $20 million funding round in TYT Network, which oversees 30 news and commentary shows covering politics, pop culture, sports and more. This includes the flagship “The Young Turks” program that streams live on YouTube every day. Other investors in the round included venture capital firms Greycroft Partners, E.ventures and 3L Capital, which led the round. This brings total funding for Young Turks to $24 million.
Hollywood activism long has been depicted as a club controlled by a handful of powerful white men: Katzenberg, Spielberg, Lear, David Geffen, Haim Saban and Bob Iger are the names most often mentioned. But a new generation of power brokers is ascendant, including J.J. Abrams and his wife, Katie McGrath, cited for their personal donations and bundling skills; Shonda Rhimes, who held a get-out-the-vote rally at USC's Galen Center on Sept. 28 that drew 10,000 people; CAA's Darnell Strom, who has hosted events for Nevada congresswoman Jacky Rosen and Arizona congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema; and former Spotify executive Troy Carter, who held three fundraisers for Maryland gubernatorial candidate Ben Jealous (Carter also was a fundraiser for President Obama).
Viacom, after splitting off from Les Moonves Les Moonves ' CBS , still holds Paramount Pictures, and that movie studio in December agreed to acquire DreamWorks SKG, the creative shop founded by the Hollywood triumvirate of Steven Spielberg, David Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg (a former exec at The Walt Disney Co.). DreamWorks Animation had been spun off into a separate company. Now it's time for Freston to make back some money--and who better to do a little business with than George Soros? The billionaire financier leads a consortium of Soros Strategic Partners LP and Dune Entertainment II LLC, which together are buying the DreamWorks library--a collection of 59 flicks, including Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator, and American Beauty.
I'm trying to put together a list of what's coming out this year. Have this very simple list so far. Anyone care to add anything or suggest some better dates?
Latest News (most recent first) - Instant channels enable safe Lightning payments with unconfirmed funding Beta - Feb 10, 2019 - Voyager, New trading app from Uber & E-Trade execs announce launch date - Feb 9, 2019 - bumi/blockstream_satellite ruby gem for the Blockstream Satellite API - Feb 8, 2019 - New Zap Desktop 0.3.4 is out. New features, massive performance - Feb 8, 2019 - New release: @lightning desktop app v0.4.0-alpha - Feb 8, 2019 - valerio-vaccaro/Liquid-dashboard - Feb 7, 2019 - Japanese SBI Holdings will allow trading of coins - March 2019 - lnd v0.5.2-beta released - Feb 6, 2019 - Koala studios launches online LN gaming platform - Feb 6, 2019 - Independent Reserve has become the first #crypto exchange in Australia to be insured, with coverage underwritten by Lloyd's of London. - Feb 6, 2019 - Coinbase announces BTC support for their mobile (keep your own keys) wallet - Feb 6, 2019 - Blockstream published a new open source Proof of Reserves tool. - Feb 5, 2019 - RTL release v0.1.14-alpha - Feb 5, 2019 - dr-orlovsky/typhon-spec spec for new trestles side chain published - Feb 5, 2019 - Payment requests coming soon to BTCPay. - Feb 5th, 2019 - Kraken Acquires Futures Startup In Deal Worth At Least $100 Million - Feb 5th, 2019 - Next Blockchain cruise scheduled for June 9-13 - Feb 4, 2019 - Work on a GoTenna plugin to Electrum wallet in progress - Feb 4, 2019 - Bitcoin Candy Dispensers being open sourced - Feb 4, 2019 - New release of JoinMarket v0.5.3 - Feb 4, 2019 - Prime Trust won’t charge its clients to custody digital assets any longer. - Feb 4, 2019 - nodogsplash/nodogsplash wifi access using LN - Feb 3, 2019 - @tippin_me Receive tips using Lightning Network adds message feature - Feb 3, 2019 - Bitcoin-for-Taxes Bill in NH Unanimously Approved by House Subcommittee - Feb 3, 2019 - Full support for native segwit merged into bitcoinj - Feb 3, 2019 - Bitfury is partnering with financial services firm Final Frontier! - Feb 2, 2019 - Now you can open #LightningNetwork channels in @LightningJoule - Feb 2, 2019 - Integrating Blockstream’s Liquid payments on SideShift AI - Feb 1, 2019 - Wyoming legislature passes bill to recognize cryptocurrency as money - Feb 1, 2019 - Casa is open sourcing the code for the Casa Node - Feb 1, 2019 - Casa Browser Extension released - v0.5.2-beta-rc6 of lnd, full release getting very close now - Feb 1, 2019 - Tallycoin adds subscriptions and paywall features in bid to rival Patreon - Jan 31, 2019 - Static channel backup PR merged into LN - Jan 31, 2019 - The NYDFS grants another Bitlicense to ATM operator - Jan 31, 2019 - @pwuille currently proposing the “MiniScript” language to describe BTC output locking conditions for practical composition - Jan 31, 2019 - Fidelity is in the “final testing” phase for its new digital asset business - Jan 31, 2019 - Hardware wallet PR #109 just got merged so that @Trezor no longer requires user interaction for PIN - Jan 31, 2019 - CBOE, VanEck & SolidX filed a new & improved bitcoin ETF proposal. - Jan 31, 2019 - Casa Node code is now open sourced - Jan 31, 2019 - Next Bitoin halving in roughly 497 days - Jan 31, 2019 - BTCPay released 220.127.116.11 - Jan 31, 2019 - @binance now lets users purchase cryptos using Visa and Mastercard credit. - Jan 31, 2019 - Bitfury to Launch Bitcoin Operations in Paraguay - Jan 31, 2019 - Coinbase introduces very generous affiliate program - Jan 30, 2019 - DOJO Trusted Node bitcoin full node. Coming Early 2019 - Jan 30, 2019 - FastBitcoins.com Enables Cash-for-Bitcoin Exchange Via the Lightning Network - Jan 30, 2019 - TD Ameritrade says clients want cryptocurrency investment options - company plans major announcement in 'first half of 2019' - Jan 30, 2019 - Storage component of Fidelity's @DigitalAssets live, with some assets under management, @nikhileshde - Jan 29, 2019 - lightning mainnet has reached 600 BTC capacity - Jan 29, 2019 - Drivechain shows picture of Grin side chain and suggests might be ready in 2 month - Jan 29, 2019 - Lightning labs iOS neutrino wallet in testing stage now - Jan 29, 2019 - Aliant offering cryptocurrency processing free-of-charge - Jan 29, 2019 - Chainstone’s Regulator product to manage assets on the way - Jan 29, 2019 - Fidelity Investments’ new crypto custody service may officially launch in March. - Jan 29, 2019 - Gemini's becomes FIRST crypto EXCHANGE and CUSTODIAN to complete a SOC 2 Review by Deloitte - Jan 29, 2019 - Iran has lifted the ban on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency - Jan 29, 2019 - Confidential Transactions being added into Litecoin announcement - Jan 28, 2019 - http://FastBitcoins.com Enables Cash-for-Bitcoin Exchange Via the Lightning Network - Jan 28, 2019 - Germany’s largest online food delivery platform now accepts btc - Jan 27, 2019 - Launching a Bitcoin Developers School in Switzerland - Jan 27, 2019 - RTL release v0.1.13-alpha Lightning Build repository released - Jan 27, 2019 - The first pay-per-page fantasy novel available to Lightning Network. - Jan 27, 2019 - Numerous tools become available to write messages transmitted with Blockstream Satellite - Jan 26, 2019; - BTCPay 18.104.22.168 released - Jan 26,2019 - WordPress + WooCommerce + BTCPay Plugin is now live - Jan 25, 2019 - Juan Guaido has been promoting #Bitcoin since 2014 is new interim president of Venezuela - Jan 25, 2019 - Morgan Creek funds @RealBlocks - Jan 25, 2019 - Coinbase integrates TurboTax - Jan 25, 2019 - Robinhood received Bitlicense - Jan 25, 2019 - Anchor Labs launches custody - Jan 25, 2019 - NYSE Arca files w/ @BitwiseInvest for BTC ETF approval - Jan 25, 2019 - South Korea, Seoul, Busan & Jeju Island currently working to create pro crypto economic zones. - Jan 25, 2019 - valerio-vaccaro/Liquid-dashboard - Jan 25, 2019 - Bermuda to launch crypto friendly bank - Jan 25, 2019 - Mobile Bitcoin Wallet BRD Raises $15 Million, Plans for Expansion in Asia - Jan 25, 2019 - BullBitcoin rolling out alpha access of platform - Jan 25, 2019 - Electrum Wallet Release 3.3.3 - Jan 25, 2019 - Bitrefill, purchase Bitcoin and have it delivered directly over LN - Jan 25, 2019 - South Korean crypto exchange Bithumb looking to go public in USA - Jan 24, 2019 - Bitcoin Exchanges Don’t Need Money Transmitter Licenses in Pennsylvania - Jan 24, 2019 - US; New Hampshire Bill Aims to Legalize Bitcoin for State Payments in 2020 - Jan 24, 2019 - Robinhood, LibertyX Receive Licenses from New York Regulators - Jan 24, 2019 - Bakkt Bitcoin futures contract details released - Jan 24, 2019 - Blockstream CryptoFeed V3 now includes 30+ venues and 200M+ updates per day - Jan 24, 2019 - Binance Jersey – The Latest Binance European Exchange - Jan 2019
Bitfury Rolls Out Lightning Peach, Its Own Suite of Lightning Tools - Jan 24, 2019
Good news. v3.6.2 just hit the play store for Android. - Jan 24, 2019
Bitrefill - LN now accounts for more payments than alts - Jan 24, 2019
proofd.app allows you to store a checksum of a doc on the blockchain - Jan 24, 2019
487 days until bitcoin halving - Jan 23, 2019
New #GalaxyS10 coming with ‘Samsung Blockchain KeyStore’- Jan 24, 2019
Proof-of-Reserves tool for Bitcoin github.com/stevenroose/reserves - Jan 24, 2019
Lightning Network Pac-Man Arcade introduced - Jan 23, 2019
This section covers questions about beermoney in general. This includes questions about exchanging gift cards, what equipment to use, issues with a site not working or offers not crediting, info on posting a giveaway or tasks, taxes, using VPNS/VPS/etc, and other general questions.
Due to an increase in spam posts, new posts must be manually approved by a mod before showing up. Most posts will be approved within 12-24 hours. Please be patient during this time. If your post has not been approved in 24 hours, you likely broke a rule or you simply weren't posting about a /beermoney topic. Having the opportunity to make money does not necessarily make your post /beermoney. Sign up bonuses, crytocurrency wallets, investments, affiliate marketing, actual jobs, and other such things are not /beermoney.
WHY DID MY NEEVO / DEFINED CROWD TASK COUNTER GO DOWN?
This typically happens when you've missed a lot of attention checks or were kicked off the job. Don't worry, you should still get paid as long as you weren't giving bad answers. It may take a bit longer for them to validate your answers, and you may get paid a bit less due to the incorrect answers. Make sure to shoot them an email though.
WHY CAN'T I DO ANY TASKS FOR NEEVO / DEFINED CROWD?
Are you being invited to jobs? — Neevo invites their best workers to new jobs first. You may get an opportunity later.
Is your task counter correct? — Your number of tasks will drop if you are banned from the job for failing too many attention checks.
Is the job still active? — It's possible that they simply ran out of tasks. Jobs are not closed until the project is completed and verified. Check back later to see if more tasks have been added.
WHY HASN'T MY NEEVO / DEFINED CROWD PAYMENT HASN'T ARRIVED YET?
Give them some time. They pay out after the job has been completed and validated. It can take a few weeks to get paid. If the job has been closed for a few weeks and you still haven't received payment, send them an email: [email protected]
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT QUICKTHOUGHTS / IPOLL
Is It Legit?
Quickthoughts does pay some people. However, they are extremely ban happy. You WILL be banned eventually.
Making A Second Account
You are not permitted to make a second account under any circumstances. It does not matter if you were wrongfully banned.
iPhone only gets iTunes and Android only gets Amazon. If you are unhappy about your selection, consider selling or trading your gift card in one of the places mentioned later on in this post. It is possible to log into your account from another device, but this increases your chances of being banned.
Surveys pay between $0.50 and $2 per survey. Different people make different rates depending on their demographics.
HOW CAN I EXCHANGE GOOGLE PLAY CREDITS FOR PAYPAL/BITCOIN/ETC?
There's no easy way to do it. Your options include:
Find someone willing to trade an app for money (you buy the app for them, they give you money).
Make an app and set up a payment system. Then spend your credits through the app you made.
Complete an offer on a site like Swagbucks where you are awarded for spending credits.
MTURK DENIED MY APPLICATION. WHY?
Mturk is only available for users age 18 or older. They primarily invite US citizens and permanent residents, but some international workers are accepted as well. Their selection process is seemingly random. If you weren't accepted, you may unexpectedly be approved in the following weeks/months.
WHY AM I NOT GETTING ANY SURVEYS?
Did you just join yesterday? — New users often see more surveys available on their first day due to the site already having a batch of surveys available. You need to wait for more to get added.
Is it during a holiday or a summewinter break? — Many sites such as mTurk and Prolific offer academic studies. This means that there will be more surveys during the school year, and far fewer during summer and holiday breaks. Also, there are more people looking for work during the breaks.
Are you checking the site constantly? — Surveys go quickly on the better paying sites. You may only get a few seconds to a couple minutes to accept the task.
Are you outside the USA? — There tends to be fewer surveys for non-USA workers.
Were you speeding or lying on previous surveys? — You may have been banned.
If you still aren't seeing any surveys after a few weeks, you may just not be in a desirable demographic. It doesn't hurt to contact support to ensure there isn't anything wrong with your account, but chances are there just hasn't been a survey needing you yet.
THESE @#%& SURVEYS KEEP DISQUALIFYING ME!!
Yes, that will happen.
BUT I SPENT 30 MINUTES ON IT!
Yup. It happens. Survey portals are notorious for disqualifying people. Sites that specialize in doing just surveys tend to be better. Basically, if you're on a site that has an offer wall and surveys, expect disqualifications to happen.
There are a few ways to prevent it, but nothing is guaranteed.
Take a couple screenshots as you progress through the survey, especially towards the end. Sometimes support will credit you if you bring it to their attention.
Don't rush, and don't walk away in the middle of a survey. If you're getting disqualified a lot, try counting to 5 after each question.
Always be consistent in your answers. There are a lot of questions designed to figure out if you're telling the truth or not. If your answers keep changing, you'll be disqualified.
Watch out for attention check questions. Sometimes questions will ask you to select a certain response, answer questions about text you've just read, or ask you silly questions such as "Are you an alien?".
OFFERS AREN'T CREDITING ME!
Make sure you don't have an adblock or any other extensions that could be interfering with it. Allowing the site isn't enough, you need to disable them. I recommend using a separate browser or profile for doing offers. It's also incredibly important to clear your cache between offers. Vanilla cookie manager is a good extension for this. Even if you do clear the cache, some offers just don't like to credit. /Swagbucks is a great place to see what offers are currently crediting easily. Since many sites use the same offer walls, you can probably find the same offers on another site. If you met the requirements for an offer and it didn't credit, the only way to get credited is to contact the support for the offer wall and show them proof that the requirements were met.
I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH A SITE
Is your cash out taking forever? or Is the site just not working right? - Look on a relevant subreddit, facebook or twitter. If there is a problem, people will be posting about it. If there's no mention of the problem, try asking on those subreddits, facebook or on twitter. If you don't know where to look, just go to google and type in the website name and what site you're looking for. For example "Swagbucks reddit" will bring you right to /Swagbucks. This works for facebook, twitter, whatever you need. If all else fails, contact support.
Is the site not loading? Try clearing your cookies. If that doesn't work, try another browser or another device. If it still isn't working, follow the advice above about "Is the site just not working right?". If you can't find anything about it, try waiting an hour or two, or even wait until the next day. There could be some issue on the website. If all else fails, contact support.
Can't login? Follow the instructions above about the site not loading. There's also a chance you've been banned. Some companies won't alert you to bans and will just suddenly remove your ability to login. Follow the advice below for "Have you been banned for no reason?"
Have you been banned for no reason? Contact support. There is absolutely nothing we can do for you here. A few site owners browse this place, but the bulk of us are just general users. Just be polite and friendly. If you didn't do anything wrong, you'll likely get your account unbanned. Sometimes a site's fraud detection is triggered on accident. If you were banned by Quickthoughts, you likely will not be unbanned, but it still doesn't hurt to send them a message.
Having another problem? You're best off just contacting support. Most of the people here are general users. If you need individualized help, contact support.
I CONTACTED SUPPORT AND GOT AN AUTOMATED REPLY. WHAT NOW?
If you get a reply and it doesn't answer your question, then send a polite reply. Make sure to restate what you said in the previous email. Don't just copy and paste; they may have misunderstood what you needed the first time. Keep it short and to the point. Under no circumstances should you yell, swear, or be rude to the staff. Remember, you are asking for their help. Being rude will only get you longer wait times, more copy and pasted responses, and potentially banned. Support is more likely to help those who are polite, so say hello and thank you with each email.
HOW DO I TRACK MY EARNINGS?
Most people use a spreadsheet. Here are a few options: One | Two | Three If you're interested in making your own spreadsheet, here are a few ideas: One | Two
WHAT EQUIPMENT SHOULD I USE?
Many people recommend /Ubiquiti I used a cheap TP-link which worked well for up to around 15 devices.
At the bare minimum, you want a dual core with Android 4.4.2. I highly recommend getting at least Android 5.0, as many apps will not work with lower spec devices. A few places to check out would be Walmart, Best Buy, Tracfone, Straight Talk, and Amazon. Sales are fairly random, so keep your eye out. You can also get devices on eBay and C7Recycle but do take note that these are often used/refurbished devices and they may not last as long. Sometimes it's cheaper in the long run to just buy new devices.
Look on ebay or craigslist. Buying used will usually get you a better price than buying new. You want at least a dual core with 4GB of RAM, but a quad core with 8GB of RAM will do you much better.
Powered USB Hubs
Many people like these. Never cheap out on your USB hubs - get a quality brand hub or stick with the OEM chargers.
Check out this post. - Although, I disagree about the auto refresher and adblock. Both of those can get you banned by many beermoney sites. FRQc is also great. Just set it to "auto low" and all of the flash videos will load faster.
Check out /BeermoneyHomeNetwork for help with configurations. The posts are old, but the info is solid. It's just one of those things that doesn't change.
DO I HAVE TO FILE TAXES?
Short answer: Yes. Long answer: It doesn't matter if you get PayPal, Cryptocurrency, Gift Cards, physical items, or whatever else. It is all considered income because you are earning it in exchange for a service. In the USA, once you earn $400 in self employment you are required to file taxes. If you earn $600 or more with any individual site in a year, you should receive a 1099 from them. Even if you don't make $600, or don't get the form, you're still supposed to report any amount you earn. There are a few circumstances in which someone doesn't need to file taxes, and if you think you would be in one of those circumstance, you should speak to a certified tax consultant. Here's more information.
WHEN SHOULD I CASH OUT?
Always cash out as soon as possible, unless there is some sort of discount for saving up your points. You never know when you might get banned or a website might go away. Building up your points is just increasing how much you have to lose. The points are not yours until the money is in your possession.
HOW DO I TELL IF SOMETHING IS LEGIT OR A SCAM?
If a post is at least 48 hours old or made by a user with flair beside their name, it is likely legit. Known scams get removed pretty quickly. GPT sites are more likely to be a scam than any other type of site posted here. If you are worried about being scammed, I highly recommend sticking to the more well known sites in this FAQ and the Common Beermoney Sites List. You can also ask the poster for proof that they were paid by a site. If they can't prove they've been paid, they are only looking for referrals. I don't recommend signing up on sites when the user can't provide payment proof.
Here's a few things to look out for:
If they send you a check and ask you to return part of the money, it is a scam. The check will bounce, and you will be out the money. If an employer needs you to buy something, they will either buy it with a company card, or ask you to send a receipt for a refund. If they've already sent the check, you can give it to your local police department if you want. Just block all communication from them.
They pay a ridiculous amount of money or claim to pay "the most". Very few surveys pay more than $10/hour. You won't get more than about a penny to click links. Videos rarely pay more than a couple pennies. This is about the maximum, and it's very common to make half this rate or lower. If the site is claiming to pay so much more than anywhere else, it's a scam.
You get an offer or interview from a site or job you didn't apply for. Be especially cautious if they want to do the interview over google hangouts.
You are being asked to work for free as a "sample", or you are asked to install a program and wait to be accepted at a later date.
They have a high minimum cash out amount (above $25). Many sites have $1-10 minimums.
You are required to refer people to get paid.
You have to spend money to use the program. Even if it is an "optional" fee, be careful. This includes "training fees".
They don't disclose what type of work you're going to do. Sometimes job listings need to be vague for non-disclosure reasons, but you should always be able to get a general description of the work you will perform.
The website or post is full of grammar errors. An error here or there is bound to happen, but any legit site is going to put in effort to look good.
It's never been mentioned on this subreddit and/or you can't find reviews on google. Unless it's a completely new service, you should be able to find something about it somewhere.
Most importantly - does it feel too good to be true? Does it feel sketchy? Is there something that is just off, but you can't put your finger on it? Trust your instinct, and come here to find out if anyone else has heard of the site. Do a search first, and if you can't find anything, then make a post about it.
There are exceptions to most of these, but these are some things to be on the lookout for. Here are a few more safety tips. Also, never trust what a blog says. They are trying to get your referral link, so they will pretend the site is better than it is. If you see the site on /beermoney, look in the comments. If the poster is making outrageous claims, usually someone will leave a comment about it.
I WANT TO DO A GIVEAWAY FOR EVERYONE HERE. AM I ALLOWED TO DO THAT?
Are you only looking for just one person or a couple of people? Go to /slavelabour.
Are you looking to do commissions or sales? Go to /slavelabour
Is it more of an actual "job" and pays at least minimum wage? Go to /WorkOnline.
Are you paying people to signup on a website/app/etc? Go to /signupsforpay
Is it a survey? If it's a raffle, go to /SampleSize. If it's a guaranteed payout and pays decently, then it will be well received here. However, I don't recommend posting it on here. Unfortunately, there are a lot of scammers here who will try to do your survey multiple times. I suggest taking it to a different subreddit, or an alternative site such as mTurk.
Pay for referrals (make sure the site allows it first!).
Join a referral chain.
DO I NEED TO USE MY REAL INFO? (name/address/birth date)
Absolutely. You need to have correct info on the sites that pay you. Lying about anything can cause a whole lot of trouble, including getting your account banned.
BUT WON'T I GET SPAM MAIL?
From The Website Paying You?
It's highly unlikely that the sites that pay you will waste their money sending you spam mail. You may get something for verification, but that's about it.
From The Surveys?
It's very rare unless they are sending a payment, a product for testing, or they are requesting a follow-up. Most surveys won't even ask for this info, and on the rare occasion they do, it's typically to avoid repeat submissions.
From The Offers?
Sometimes. Most of them won't send you anything even if they say they will. Charities, credit cards, banks, and other similar services will spam you non-stop though.
In Your E-mail?
Absolutely. Make sure to use a separate e-mail for beermoney work, especially if you're going to be doing offers.
THIS SITE NEEDS A PHONE NUMBER FOR VERIFICATION. CAN YOU HELP ME?
CAN I USE A VPN, VPS, OR OTHER SOFTWARE TO PRETEND I'M FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY?
No. You can get banned for doing this. Usually they ban you right after you redeem your first reward. The location is restricted for a reason.
CAN I USE AN EMULATOR OR A VIRTUAL MACHINE?
No. Third party software is not allowed, and you can be banned for it.
IS BEERMONEY DEAD/DYING?
No. Don't listen to the trolls. Beermoney changes over time. Some methods are less lucrative now than in the past. Some are more lucrative. Some have less sites offering the service, and some have more. Passive methods are on the decline, but beermoney is more than just passive methods.
WHY ARE MY COMMENTS/POSTS BEING DOWNVOTED?
Every post will get a few downvotes. You can't please everyone. If you get down to -5 or lower, you might want to take a look at what you're typing. Beermoney users in general are more likely to upvote than to downvote, so either you're breaking a rule, spreading false info, or you're just being rude.
Cryptocurrency and Taxes: What You Need to Know. This year, for the first time, federal tax forms ask about your bitcoin and other cryptocurrency activities. Paying income taxes is certainly one of the least enjoyable duties known to mankind. And claiming your Bitcoin losses is also sure to rank as your least memorable task of late 2018. However, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is not an authority figure to be ignored nor openly defied. This year, for the first time, federal tax forms ask about your bitcoin and other cryptocurrency activities. Here’s a look at the implications for your income taxes. But all companies need paying customers and if your website is able to provide them, then this can prove to be a lucrative revenue stream. This is where affiliate or referral marketing comes in. This is a great way of earning a relatively passive income from your website by pointing visitors in the direction of other sites. You might not be aware, but if the size of your pot of bitcoin – or other crypto – has risen considerably since you bought it, you need to be thinking about your potential liabilities to HMRC. FIND OUT IF YOU OWE TAX. In December, HMRC published a list of ways your bitcoin can make you liable for a range of taxes.
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